When I was starting out breeding, I bred a coated bitch that we acquired from the late Pat Turrise to Ch. Rivaden's Billy Boy. Billy carried the coat factor. When our puppies were 6 weeks old, I told Pat there was not coats in the litter. She thought that I didn't know what I was talking about, she said that was impossible as Billy thru a lot of coats when bred to a bitch that carried the coat factor. I will never forget her face when we carried the puppies over to her back yard and she saw that there were no coats in this litter. So this is not a fail proof method. Janet _www.JanMarGsd.com_ (http://www.JanMarGsd.com) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================