[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: micro-chipping /tatooing
- From: "TRAFALGAR" <TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:29:20 -0400
In the past I've tattooed all of my dogs and now I am taking advantage =
of
the chip.
I just chipped my litter and a Chinese Crested....chipping was through a
clinic organized by Delaware Valley GSDC and all I can say is THANKs...
Registration with the company is steep...but the AKC offers registration =
at
a price of $12.50 per dog ( includes a tag at no add'l cost) and this =
price
is discounted to $9.00 per dog if the sponsors of a chip clinic contact =
the
AKC two (?) weeks in advance.
I was able to get the better price, because I registered not only my =
newly
chipped dogs, but also my previously chipped dogs...I wanted to have
everyone in the same data base.....
I keep copies of rabies certificates & chip numbers in each car, my =
grooming
gear and tags are attached to crates...no collars on my guys unless we =
are
traveling and those collars have name & phone number permanently =
attached or
stitched in...nothing hanging...
TRAFALGAR German Shepherds=20
Michael & Susan Cheeks =20
TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx
610-827-1833
=20
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Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #2226
showgsd-l Digest Mon, 28 Aug 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 2226
In This Issue:
#1: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
Subject: NAIS Part Five
#2: From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: review???
#3: From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Review
#4: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Clean kennels
#5: From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: cute site
#6: From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: AKC and A Change in Their Good Citizen
Requirements
#7: From: Holly Woods <hollywoods@xxxxxxx>
Subject: anesthetic question
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Msg: #1 in digest
From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:49:42 EDT
Subject: NAIS Part Five
> THE SITUATION NOW
>
> The public input meetings across the country were uniformly AGAINST=20
> the whole idea. The Coalition gave their arguments effectively but our =
> side did a through and convincing job of presenting the reasons not to =
> make any government ordered change without careful study. In summary=20
> those arguments are:
>
> 1. The U.S. already HAS a standardized system of pet microchipping=20
> with 150,000 scanners out there able to read any chip. It makes NO=20
> sense to introduce a new and incompatible kind of pet microchip in=20
> order to 'standardize' and 'eliminate incompatibility.' "If it ain't=20
> broke, don't fix it."
>
> More precisely, "If aint' broke, don't break it in order to fix it."
>
> 2. The proposed 'new universal' scanner (reading both U.S. standard
> 125 kHz and ISO 134.2 kHz ones) does not work reliably; whether that's =
> just 'teething' or some more fundamental problem is unknown.
>
> 3. There would necessarily be a period of confusion when some pets=20
> were chipped one way, some the other, and not all scanners read both=20
> formats.
>
> 4. The ISO standard was designed for herd inventory. It is NOT secure=20
> against cloning or resetting of chip numbers because herd owners want=20
> these features. Some chips can even have the number changed while in=20
> the animal. This is not suitable for secure tracking of large numbers=20
> of pets or other animals for disease control, return to owner, proof=20
> of ownership, insurance, and similar purposes.
>
> 5. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL: A change of standards can only be=20
> accomplished by a government mandate that will inevitably come with a=20
> centrally operated and essentially public domain database of pets.
> 99% of the use of that database will be to enforce laws against=20
> whatever your local animal control considers 'irresponsible' pet=20
> owners. The database (not the ISO chip or any desire to get more pets=20
> home) is the reason for HSUS, ASPCA, and animal control organization=20
> support.
>
> WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
>
> In a perfect world, APHIS would weigh all the inputs according to=20
> their quality and make a decision accordingly: The logical decision=20
> would be "No government mandate to standardize on a product that=20
> nobody wants." However, this isn't a perfect world. It appears that=20
> the head of APHIS is unhappy that all the NAIS money is going to other =
> parts of USDA. Basically, it looks to me like APHIS is going to decide =
> that a plan very much along the lines above is a good first step=20
> toward making pets part of NAIS.
>
> I think that APHIS has been promised that the Coalition will support=20
> making pets part of NAIS once the first step is accomplished. That=20
> would be a good deal for everyone: for Banfield because (I believe)=20
> they have a deal for Datamars chips at a near giveaway price; for=20
> Datamars because it would give them a solid foothold in the U.S. chip=20
> marketplace; for the Coalition because it would mean microchipping and =
> registration in a single government-sponsored data base for all pets;=20
> and for APHIS because it would need bunches of money to make the data=20
> base and maybe 200 million pet registrations happen. In any case it is =
> appears that APHIS is completely on board, bought, sold, and done=20
> deal. The necessary laws are already in existence and they just have=20
> to go through the rulemaking formalities -- a process that will take=20
> just a few more months.
>
> It appears to me that the AVMA has been suckered into this. I think=20
> they didn't know they were signing on to the ISO standard but thought=20
> they were just backing some sort of motherhood and apple pie=20
> 'standardization' of pet microchips. The small animal vets who form=20
> the bulk of the AVMA's board of directors tend to be do-gooders, not=20
> exactly of strong candlepower. You can see the thinking, here:
>
> http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/sep05/050901p.asp
>
> Shades of "we have to be involved" -- the AKC's rationale for its=20
> total support of PAWS.
>
> AAHA I have no clue about. Probably brain-dead do-gooderism again.
>
> You'd like to think that this is so stupid and so obviously what it is =
> -- just an idea for a law to take our money out of our pockets and put =
> it in those of Datamars, Banfield, and others, with no benefit to pets =
> and horrific damage to pet ownership and the pet supply system -- that =
> it has no chance. However the reverse appears to be true. I think this =
> is on greased rails and if we do nothing, it WILL happen.
> If it stays on those tracks I'd guess that five years from now there=20
> will be a law requiring all pets to be chipped and registered. In a=20
> later post I'll go into what we can do to stop it.
>
> REMEMBER -- On May 26th, 2005, PAWS was a 'done deal' -- no chance it=20
> could be stopped. Today, although still alive, it sits in some dusty=20
> congressional closet, covered with green flies.
>
> Walt Hutchens
> Timbreblue Whippets
> Virginia
>
> THIS MAY BE FORWARDED FREELY
>
"You may never know what results come from your action.
But if you do nothing, there will be no result."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Mahatma Gandhi =
Stormy Hope
*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
Dog's love is different, it requires no return UPDATED 2/11/06....CHECK =
IT
OUT!!!!
www.FairhopeGSD.com
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Msg: #2 in digest
From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:51:49 EDT
Subject: Re: review???
=20
=20
In a message dated 8/28/2006 6:24:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx writes:
Yes I heard it is a big issue, and I will bet it is a knockout...if we =
have
=20
to wait a bit...so be it, I am anxious to see it!!
Kathy =20
Cool.............its nice to hear some members are in the know, as to
what's coming out in the Review, and when its coming out. Thanks you =
for
sharing with the rest of us. I am glad to see we are even starting to =
be
forgiving about a little tardiness. After the "white" battles we sure
needed a break.
=20
Ileana
Chance favors the prepared mind
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Review
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:58:46 -0400
Ain't that why everyone spends all that money?? LOL!
Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA
Proud member GSDCA and Sawnee Mtn Kennel Club www.rihadin.com
-----Original Message-----
From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf =
Of
Helen Franklin
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:56 PM
To: PATRICIA WALKER
Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Review
I think I'm very much supposed to look at the September Review...what =
say
you advertisers?
Helen
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Msg: #4 in digest
From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:53:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Clean kennels
Chlorine is very unstable, it doesn't build up as far as anything I've =
ever=20
learned. The Chlorine becomes a gas and dissipates. The water, of
course,=20
has minerals, and they can build up :-)
Stormy
In a message dated 8/28/06 8:42:31 PM, pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> My understanding is that it's important to wash a bleach solution off=20
> thoroughly as bleach will build up after a while (which is not good).
>=20
"You may never know what results come from your action.
But if you do nothing, there will be no result."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Mahatma Gandhi =
Stormy Hope
*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
Dog's love is different, it requires no return UPDATED 2/11/06....CHECK =
IT
OUT!!!!
www.FairhopeGSD.com
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Msg: #5 in digest
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:15:49 -0400
From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: cute site
Go here to see some dog tricks. make sure your sound is turned on,=20
pretty loud, too........
http://www.idodogtricks.com/index_flash.html
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Msg: #6 in digest
From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: AKC and A Change in Their Good Citizen Requirements
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:30:00 -0400
UKC is looking more and more inviting............
Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA
Proud member GSDCA and Sawnee Mtn Kennel Club www.rihadin.com
-----Original Message-----
Crossposted by permission:
Change in AKC's requirements for the CGC=20
Posted by: "Sheila E." sudbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx sudburyecs=20
Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:25 pm (PST)
I happened to go to AKC's site for the CGC and noticed a new
requirement, i.e., to sign the Responsible Dog Owners Pledge. And
that pledge requires MICROCHIPPING your dogs and that they wear
collars with tags.
While I do chip my dogs, it's MY CHOICE to do so. I have an old dog
that's only tattooed and not chipped. Once again, AKC is changing
the rules to promote AKC's income (registration with their CAR
program, tho they stopped short of requiring that one). And we all
know they want NAIS expanded to include pets!
And for safety reasons, my dogs wear collars only when they leave
home, and then only when they leave the car. Since that's most often
when we go to shows and trials, or to training classes, their collars
do NOT have tags attached to them. Their tags stay safely in an
envelope, together with their rabies certificates and licenses. And
think of all those AKC events where tags are specifically prohibited
during competition. What a contradiction!
Guess I won't be getting CGC's on my dogs in the future. I already
allowed my CGC evaluator status to lapse when AKC wanted me to PAY
for the privilege to VOLUNTEER as a CGC "judge" at my obedience
club. Come to think of it, I haven't entered a CGC test since they
began requiring payment for a certificate, either.
Sheila E.
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Msg: #7 in digest
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:47:57 -0700
From: Holly Woods <hollywoods@xxxxxxx>
Subject: anesthetic question
A friend just met someone that had a shepherd with lock jaw. The man =
said it
came out of anesthetic with it and has had it ever since.. My friend was
wondering if this is an anesthetic thing or a german shepherd thing or =
both?
I said I would find out
Holly Woods
Marrand Shepherds Williams Lake, B.C.
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