I am sorry folks, I didn't see an answer until Carolyn's, then Lynn, now Kathy, but ladies, I KNOW you knew this....LOL....... Bottom line, coats are less of a problem (or should be) than dragging toes, locked hocks....why dont we take those more seriously? * Ileana * Love me, love my dogs. In a message dated 10/17/2012 8:54:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: Me too, answered it on the 10th see below w/ the e-mail header. BTW there were 5 or 6 folks who answered. You sound pretty cranky Lyn either about the quality of animals shows and/or those being awarded. I've seen a lot of quality lately:) ____________________________________ From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: truebluek9s@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 10/10/2012 7:33:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Long Coats in All Breed AKC shows A long coat is (only) a fault, you could always show a long coat dog in any AKC show. It's probably a waste of time to do it, but you can and always could. This is the first year we have had a separate class for them at the national. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 10/16/2012 8:35:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Ileana, I answered your question, the same day you sent it. I said that the answer was the same as "faults in temperament"! You must have missed my email <VBG> Lyn Lyn Chernak ~ CherLyn Shepherds AKC Breeder of Merit http://www.cherlynshepherds.com Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, CD, RA, TC, CGC ________________________________ From: Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> To: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx" <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>; "texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx" <texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx>; "truebluek9s@xxxxxxxxx" <truebluek9s@xxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: long coats at sll breeds Thanks Carolyn. In 4 days, yours was the only answer. Maybe that's why animals with serious fault keep getting awarded Ileana Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:04 AM, carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: very serious > > >Carolyn > >--- On Fri, 10/12/12, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> >>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: long coats at sll breeds >>To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx, texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx, truebluek9s@xxxxxxxxx >>Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 6:49 AM >> >> >>Right, we dont have Major or Minor faults. Long coats are only a fault. Not >>a serious fault, nor a very serious fault. Those we have. Faults of >>movement are a _________ fault. Who knows the answer?? <G> >> >>* Ileana * >>Love me, love my dogs. >> >>In a message dated 10/12/2012 12:57:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: >> >>Long coats are not a major fault as stated below. They are a fault of coat >>only. >>Lyn >> >> >>Lyn Chernak ~ CherLyn Shepherds >>AKC Breeder of Merit >> >>http://www.cherlynshepherds.com >>Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership >>CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC >>Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, CD, RA, TC, CGC >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Diane Brantley <texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: "truebluek9s@xxxxxxxxx" <truebluek9s@xxxxxxxxx> >>Cc: "showgsd-l@freelists org" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:23 AM >>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] long coats at sll breeds >> >>Long coats are not a dq, just a major fault. You could always show long >>coats at all breed shows. >>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> >> >> >>========================================================================== =P >>OST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the >>original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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