I don't remember what mouth position James assumed as I've only been able to get him howling once, but rather than the long drawn out wolfish howl every other GSD I know does he does a shorted hound dog type bay. Even when I got him going with my wolves CD all I got was hound-dog. Maybe I can teach him to sing to Elvis :) Sarah > Ok, here is what happens when you have too much time on your hands, waiting for news from the Nationals :-)> I have observed 2 different howling styles in my dog.? Some make an "O" with their lips to howl.? Others howl open mouthed.? > Laura Thomas _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================