In a message dated 7/5/2005 6:33:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes: I have mentioned a couple of times about a pup that I had, that by 6 months had huge callouses on his elbows BECAUSE of the way he lay with his elbows akimbo. Those callouses grow as they are basically necrotic skin that builds layer by layer. I don't think we can attribute them to one single cause, really. Boy, that would have driven me nuts! But, no, we shouldn't have all sorts of lumps, bumps and oddities on the backs of our dogs' hocks. All dogs sit, a lot of dogs go up and down stairs, feet are for walking, not the backs of their hocks. Every now and again I'll see a puppy out and about who doesn't have a callous yet, all sore and raw looking. news flash! That's not "normal" and you can talk about drive and suspension all day long, but I don't want babies with bloody hocks. I don't need to diagnose it (too long a hock, way too much rear angulation, faulty rear configuration, too loose ligamentation?), I don't need to defend it, I sure as h*** don't want to discuss it with a companion home or their vet, I don't want to have to say a novena to hope it improves, I don't need to second guess it, I just don't want it. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================