Exactly! Then they become known and people expect them to win. Look at Olivia Calabrese and Sean Conboy. This kids can still show in Juniors and have finished how many dogs? Selects? Don't you expect them to compete with the big guys - and beat 'em on lots of occasions - even at their age? When folks give young handlers good dogs, they begin to win. Then get better dogs and win more. Pretty soon they aren't the exception, but the rule. Thats how all the big guys got started - with their first dog show......... Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Firedog, Ch Cookie, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy, Ch Flash, and Lil' Miss Dancer!! Website updated 11/04 -------------- Original message -------------- > It's uncommon because new handlers don't commonaly get the best dogs > because no one knows they do a good job. As soon as people know they do a > good > job > they get better dogs and win more offten. Not hard to understand. Fred ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================