Perhaps Helen was checking for both undercoat and dye, however I feel she that she was checking more for "dye" since she made a big deal about dying dogs sometime back on another list. She ran her hands at times up and down the dogs legs..on the shoulders and even in the prosternum area looking for "red" enhancement..not just black.Could be she was checking to see if the color went to the skin, or if the undercoat was slightly lighter as it should be. With one dog she ran her hands on the dogs body..stepped back..looked at her hands..shook her head and went over to her table and dramatically wiped her hands off on the tablecloth. I thought she was showing the crowd, through her theatrics that the dog had been enhanced..guess not, he was placed toward the center of the group. I assume she must have gotten a grooming product on her hands..but hard to say, so the group I was sitting in was left wondering...does he..or doesn't he! C hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Amy Safdir <almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <medusasmom1@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 11/11/2008 7:46:41 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: dye or undercoat? and thanks > > That was my thoughts I never thought she was checking for dye since she > would do it generally in the shoulder region and a more likely place to > check for dye would be right down the back. I thought she was looking at > undercoat.........someone else said fleas and ticks hahahahah! I guess thats > a good question to ask her and see exactly what she was looking at. > > Amy Safdir > Almanya Shepherds > www.almanyagsd.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Medusas Mom" <medusasmom1@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:18 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] dye or undercoat? and thanks > > > >I have a feeling the intersex judge was checking the dogs for undercoat and > > not artificial color. > > I wasn't there but have seen it quite a bit in German shows.The standard > > calls for an undercoat to some degree be present in all dogs,so thats my > > guess what she was doing.Congratulations to the winners! They are all > > lovely! Thanks to Evan as always for making it fun for those of us at > > home.Thanks to the judges and to the host club for all the hard work > > putting > > on a National requires. Medusa & I are looking forward to a fun National > > in > > Ohio next year for her 12th birthday! > > Medusasmom > > -- > > Medusasmom > > T-Ho Shepherds since 1979 > > Breeder of Best In Show,High in Trial,police,leader,therapy dogs & More > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================