Many years ago I showed a Bouvier. This dog was HUGE and a high drive working dog that slobbered like a broken hose. At a show one year, some idiot complained that he was stuffed into a crate MUCH to small for this dog. Of course the complaint brought out the usual do gooders, one of which was so upset that she volunteered to hold his leash. That lasted all of two minutes before she admited defeat and pleaded with me to take him back. I told her, as Sebastian, foaming at the mouth, was leaping in the air with all four off the ground, that I would be putting him back in his crate! Stupid people...but at least no one bothered me about it anymore! Anja Anja Heibloem-Stroud www.pet-net.net/hausmekon/<http://www.pet-net.net/hausmekon/> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================