Hi Linda, I agree with EVERYTHING you've said. Problems are genetic and colloidal silver, et al are temporary bandaids. I also agree that the contributing animals should be removed from the genetic pool. Late in the 1980's I discovered that the line that I based my foundation stock on was rife with DM. Well, that was the end of THAT line. And I started again. Don't you think that some breeders hesitate to remove the certain studs from the market? I really don't understand that at all. My ONLY point was that if you know that your dog/bitch has a compromised immune system, colloidal silver could help out him/her. I definitely do NOT mean that said dog should be bred. Penny in NY Penny & Bill Landsend Kennels Since 1974 ----- Original Message ----- From: CherlynGSD@xxxxxxx To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] compromised immune systems Penny, I understand that you would like to help your dogs and strengthen their immune system, however your suggestions are a temporary solution. As are the other remedies that give temporary relief to genetic problems. The only sure cure is to seek out the contributors and alleviate them from the breeding pool. This is not to just single you out, I am only answering your question ... "Isn't that the name of the game?" If these temporary remedies continue with no attempt to stop the problems, in years to come our GSD will no longer look like it was meant to look nor will it be capable of performing the tasks that it was bred to do. I agree in most cases, it takes both the sire and the dam to carry these genes to produce the problem, however when the genes are continuously passed on, we will always have the problems as well as developing new ones. Ten or fifteen years ago we may have had these same problems but they were few are far between. Today many of them are quite common. With that said .... I am sure I will get a lot of feed back. Linda Chernak In a message dated 12/29/2004 1:06:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx writes: And isn't that the name of the game? What works for us? Penny in NY Penny & Bill Landsend Kennels Since 1974 ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================