In a message dated 3/29/2006 9:20:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, linnloch@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: at that time this was supposed to be coming from Troll v Richterbach?) As i recall, Ulk was a Troll son and i know for a fact that Ulk could produce livers as i worked part time for a security outfit in the sixties that bred their own shepherds and the Ulk litter that they bred had 2 livers. Don't remember for sure the bloodlines on the dam but i think she went to Bernd. Bud ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================