[ SHOWGSD-L ] child bitten....sound dogs

  • From: gsdlady28@xxxxxxx
  • To: myjoygs@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:55:38 -0400

I feel exactly the same way....yes, kids should be taught how to approach and 
interact with dogs, but I have a 12 year old son and a newborn baby girl, and 
when my son was younger, he, being a young child did young child things....they 
fall down, they run and jump, they get excited, they say "eye" as they poke the 
dog in the eye....and we teach them as they grow, but through it all, while the 
child is growing and learning, my dogs have NEVER even tried to bite my son, 
even one grumpy old man who really did not like kids too much, when my son fell 
down the stairs and landed ON him (and it hurt them both!) and screamed and 
cried, he did not growl or nip, he just got up and walked (disgruntled) away... 
and gave us all a longsuffering look..."the things I put up with" written all 
over his face...a sound dog that knows his place, even one not raised with 
kids, should recognize that they do not mean harm and are babies and put up 
with the learning process.....of course I would not 
 dream of leaving a young child unattended with any dog,no matter how 
trustworthy, and I would always keep a mindful eye on them when they are 
together, thereby avoiding most problems before they start. Then there is the 
occasional alpha dog who is basically sound, but does not know his place, and 
he looks at the children as puppies that he can be the boss of, or as equals 
that he can play with...that I feel is how many face bites happen, a child does 
something the dog deams as wrong or threatening, and the dog, not meaning to 
hurt or be mean, gives a quick "puppy correction", the same way they would give 
a puppy a repremand, on the face by the muzzle or the top of the head, saying 
"I am the boss, quit it", only a childs face is much softer thus the damage 
much worse.  I am not saying this is ok, but it is not the same as a dog who 
bites and shakes and means to harm.  This kind of dog needs training, to be 
taught that ALL people, of ANY size are ALWAYS the boss, period. They 
 need to know where their place is, and to have it drilled into their little 
alpha brains.   That is how my dogs are raised, they all know their place, and 
know they rank under all people, and maybe even some cats <G>.
 
Maggie Marshall
Aeval German Shepherds
http://hometown.aol.com/gsdlady28/index.html
Website Updated 03/21/2007
 
Msg: #1 in digest
Subject: Re: 3 year old child bitten by dog
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:03:33 -0400
From: myjoygs@xxxxxxx
My granddaughter was bit in the face by a dog when she was 18 months old at the 
babysitters by their husky.  The dog should not have been around the child as 
the owner knew it has some temperment problems.  but her quote "he was doing so 
much better".  The dog was laying on the floor by the sliding glass doors, my 
granddaughter was standing at the sliding glass door and the next thing, the 
dog 
had her face.  It was sickening to see her face afterwards, that dog had its 
teeth in her from the bridge of the nose to the chin.  Thankfully it wasn't any 
worse then it was and thanks to a good surgeon, you would barely know it 
happened, she will probably need another surgery for a scar at the bridge of 
her 
nose.  It was horrific to see her.  Thankfully it was at a young age and she 
doesn't have any fear of dogs and actually loves them.

Now for the part of the kid hitting the dog, while it is the responsibility of 
the parents to teach their children how to treat dogs and it is the 
responsibility of the person watching the child, things to happen, one of my 
dogs was around a group of us and we were all talking and my 2 year old nephew 
was around, I heard the dog whimper and looked and my nephew had his finger in 
her eye, she did not snap, bite or do anything to that child and I quickly 
rescued her.  The point being if the dog is totally sound it will not harm a 
child, that is what I believe and I am sticking to it.  If you are not sure of 
the an animals soundness around children then it should not be around them 
period or if its me and a child approches one of my dogs and I am not a 100%, 
sure my hand is right there by the muzzle while they pat them.

  Just my point of view
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