They do...I usually don't stay. When we show GSDs first thing in the AM, to wait until after Groups with a baby (especially if it is their first or second time out), is one heck of a long day for a baby. I did stay once last year, had a special in the (real, lol) Group too so was going to be there anyway and respected the person scheduled to do Puppy Group. Then at the last minute the super changed the lineup and the puppy group "judge" was just someone they pulled from the crowd. That just made it easier to say "no, we're going home <G>" next time, lol. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 8/12/2010 8:29:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Many shows in this part of the country offer Best Puppy competition (and Veterans, too) but the puppies come from the regular 6-9 and 9-12 classes . ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================