In a message dated 9/17/13 5:47:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gsdworkingline@xxxxxxxxx writes: Can any old time breeders speak to whether they have noticed a decline in athleticism over the decades and if so, what can it be attributed too? Were you early dogs very athletic, agile, and supple? How come it is rarely mentioned in ads...is it not an important trait anymore to possess? Phrases go out of style and new one come in. I still can't call someone "Dude" or say, "My bad" without feeling like a total idiot. Which, in truth might be a valid statement. I remember when I first heard of a "Gray" and now it seems we are reviving "Brown" both for sables. The phrase isn't being used that much, but the dogs are as great or better than they ever were. I know from personal experience Kirk loves to sit in chairs, or get up on top of 6 ft walls to walk or sit. We have a picture of him on a cement ball. This is not unusual for today's German shepherds. They are as good at "athleticism" as they ever were. Just because we don't use the phrase, does not say we don't see it in our dogs. They are still the "cat's meow". The breed is but a little over 100 years old. If you want to figure generations, and use an 8 year life span, that is only 12 or 13 generations. There is no great genetic change, but rather some traits we are hiding through better breeding. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan Ginsburg Asgard Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================