Oh, all we need then - for what ever - are easily identified specifics on #1 care (each and every one is different - large, small, long coats, (Chinese Crested) -- none - VBG ear & tail stuff etc. etc. ) So it'd be tough for specifics for a mandate for some. As for "quality" - oh the standard as WRITTEN by Mother AKC - and, well -- those other folks - should be the guideline for a patrol group that's non existent at this time I think -- unless it'd be our conformation shows and those who win --- I do not have an answer for all of these things. I just KNOW that far too many folks are mean. Look at Lew's post this evening --- yikes --- after our talk of this it feels sad. I know, guess we'll just need to be glad WE ARE HERE FOR THE RESCUES BECAUSE WE ARE -- proper folks. Sorry Ed - and all, didn't think it was a post to get folks riled -- I don't adhere to the tough stuff just the light hearted fun and educational posts. Norma with part of her head in the sand --- not all the way tho --- BarkBark ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================