Ed raises some good points. I don't agree that you improve the breed by "lowering the bar", (getting rid of majors, or giving points to Reserve), but it would make dog shows more fun. I don't see anything wrong with making more champions, and letting more people have more fun. I know a lot of people want it to be harder to finish a dog, thinking that somehow that makes it more valuable. But, let's face it, there is nothing noble or honorable about a champion. This whole activity of showing dogs is for our pleasure, and if something makes it more fun, I say go for it. As for Juniors, I think they should pay us to show our dogs. After all, we are training them, giving them an opportunity to learn how to handle a dog, and letting them into our sport. It would also teach those kids what real life is like, and that you don't get anything for free. I say, toughen them up. Teach them a lesson, and make sure they know how important we are, and appreciate that we allow them to hang with us adults. Then when they turn 18, they can charge those other Junior Handlers to learn all we have taught them. What a great life lesson that would be. Also, we could make it a obligation that when they turn 18, they have to drive us to dog shows, bring us food, and read the small print in the catalogues to us. Let's give them the understanding and more meaning to life for us. After all, there has to be an advantage to living this long. Wisdom is over rated, and when you combine it with massive memory loss, it has no advantage. Evan -----Original Message----- From: edwinx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Feb 21, 2015 9:13 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What would increase entries? How would I know, I'm just a cook. But I do think a few changes would made showing dogs more enjoyable. First I'd get rid of majors! If you look at the numbers based on how many dogs were needed for a major say 15 years ago and how many are needed now the current " major-minor" thing is a shell game. Let's end folks hunting for shows that MAY hold a major! The Canadians don't have majors ( smart folks those Canadians) . How about getting rid of the abusive exploitive rule of not paying kids who show in Juniors! yes years ago when BASU had a conflict I used a junior handler, now an adult, and I PAID him/her! I HATE how our society generally deals with our children .... Okay back on topic . I'd also give out a single point to the Reserve Winner. You say that would lead to more " undeserving champions"... Nonsense! How many times have you gone to the show and thought the reserve winners were just as good as the winners, or even better! But like I said in the beginning ... I'm just a cook! Ed Hill Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App