Clap, clap, clap, clap! I'm so sorry Penny for the loss of you gal. I read what Vicki does re. gas-x before training class w/ her dog. (Honey, I'd tack that guy!) If you look in my medicine cabinet in the kitchen, you'll find cherry flavored Mylanta liquid. Ditto the front of the van. It sucks having to live w/ this kind of fear:( I've lost sleep over bitches in to be bred who gulped their food....I lose sleep when a dog barfs up clear liquid after eating grass...reach for the Mylanta.... I have a litter of puppies leaving this week and for the first time ever I put a blip in the puppy packet about bringing up tacking at the time of spaying/neutering. Spare me the holier-than-thou-good-of-the-breed speeches. These are, except for one, going to pet homes, children's dogs. I think I've done right breeding away from it, but I can't find a 4 generation pedigree w/o it.... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 6/30/2009 4:05:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, caggra@xxxxxxx writes: The Veterinarians at Ohio State stated that bloat/torsion is breed specific (GSD's, Great Danes etc.) because of the way these breeds are built - deeper obdominal cavities?? ? However, they also stated that within those breeds there are most certainly lines that have a higher rate of occurance and that environmental factors can pull the trigger on those pre-disposed to it through their genes? I still hear some people talk about bloat & torsion as if it is not at all connected to genetic make-up Of course, then again, Elvis may still be alive too!???? :)? Jeff **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================