this Jimmy-Judge bashing is getting on my nerves. First of all I didn't think this kind of thing was allowed and second-how petty. I know it is frustrating to assume you are going to not win when you see Jimmy at a show but you cant wi nif you dont play. I know both Jimmy and some exhibitors have been surprised when he lost the breed-which is not the usual-but it has happened. Im assuming you all are talking about 99% all breed shows. Even the most honest judge likes to put a dog to breed that will do well in the group. That is not dishonesty if it is a close call between two dogs. These posts sound like there is no Winners dog or Winners bitch awards. I thought that was what most shepherd exhibitors went to all breeds for since it is rare to see any number of Breed dogs entered. True, Jimmy is a smart business man and only travels where he thinks he might win. Do any of you not do the same. Nobody I know wants to put out this amount of money to go for just fun. Over the past thirty years I have put Jimmy up and I have beaten him. He has always taken both well. I have also judged shows where a nice special has been presented against him but has dirty teeth,long nails and not the cleanest coat. Not even a contest who to send to the group and best in show. Im not a died in the wool Jimmy fan nor am I against him. He has handled a number of dogs for us in the long years ago. Perhaps Im missing the point but what brought this about. If he brings a judge a dog and it is a good one-what is the beef. He is the consumate professional and though even I would change the way he goes about a few things I think this is way over the top-both about him and the judges. There is more than one exhibitor who would gladly step into his shoes but I dont know if they would want to be on the road 11 months a year and put in the mental and physical labor to achieve this. Marion Lawrence ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================