As we say on the left coast, This must be a right coast thing :0) Terry Trahanone@xxxxxxx wrote: I have been around the all breed ring a while and the shepherd breed is different from all others and the difference is Jimmy Moses. Good, bad or indifferent this is how I see it. If you take any other breed or top dog there is not one handler that dominates any breed as Jimmy does our breed in the history of dog showing. Some of the top handlers of other breeds such as Peter Green, Scott Summers, Clint Livingston, etc. are constantly on the lookout for the best dogs that can WIN nomatter who the breeder. They search the entire country for the best dogs to take to the circuit. Once they have the best dog they look for the "money people" to sponsor that animal. In some cases even the top handlers cannot find the people to promote an animal and the career of that dog may not ever be what it could have been if it would have had the $$$. Jimmy never runs out of clients with big money to back any dog he cares to promote. He has done a great job of "selling himself" over the years to the right money people. NOW THE DOWNSIDE TO THIS FOR OUR BREED. Jimmy has gotten so powerful with his ability to promote a dog (to his credit) that he knows he can do it with a less capable animal. He has proven that over and over again. He does not search the countryside for the best GSD he can find at all. He keeps the pipeline full of animals he "for whatever reason" decides to show and he knows he can win with it. THE PEOPLE HE SHOWS FOR (HIS CLIENTS) ARE NOT SHEPHERD PEOPLE THEY ARE JUST FOLKS WITH BIG MONEY THAT WANT TO WIN AND JIMMY GIVES THEM THAT. Not one of his big money clients that have recently promoted the big time recent winners care about our breed as we do. They may not be paying members of our parent club, frequent visitors to our futurities, may have never read the GSD standard, or have ever whelped a German Shepherd litter. So therefore we have a powerful exhibitor that has not shown "Our Best" and that is the only problem I have with this subject. I love the breed and the breed is above any handler, money sponsor, etc. so therefore lets show the best and when we see a great one let's let our AKC judges know that's what a GSD should be. Conclusion: This is no Jimmy bashing at all. The man is the hardest working handler I have ever seen and the smartest promoter of a dog in the game. All I am saying in my opinion the breed has suffered to a degree with his ability to do what he has done. Now listen......in the same respect Jimmy has helped the breed tremendously. The shepherd in an all breed show prior to his success was not a winning breed in the show ring. Jimmy has made our breed a very recognizable, favorite breed at any all breed show you attend which we all benefit from. Without his success we would not be winning the Best in Shows as a breed that we can do today. SO IT IS A MIXED BAG OF GOOD AND BAD. Scott Trahan White Oak Home of GVX Godiva and BISS/MBIS Sammy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================