In a message dated 1/8/2006 3:26:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Gsdman2@xxxxxxx writes: I believe the Reserve winners should compete against each other at the national just before the Fut/Mat finals. The winners of that would then go on to compete in the finals. Since there is only one Futurity Victor, one Futurity Victrix, one Maturity Victor, and one Maturity Victrix, only the best of the Reserve dogs and bitches need to be in the finals to end up with the same potential results. What struck me as interesting is the idea of two competitions. How about we have the Winners compete, then the winner competes against the Reserves. That way we would know how good the Best in Futurity actually is? Let them compete against each other, the judge will tell us who is the best. This last year I know a number of Reserves that were as good if not better than the winners. They both got to compete with the judge not knowing which one was the Reserve. It made for interesting results. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================