In a message dated 12/6/2005 4:37:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx writes: Denise, I think Pam is saying that if the dogs that are being shown are to be looked at as studs and brood bitches they should be OFA'd? The world I live in has breeders pronoting dogs as potential studs and brood bitches....not OFA'd, not prelimbed...just babes of Champions. That's enough to bring around the no-minds. Why not do what you can?? You can't regulate ethics. If showing dogs started at 2 yrs of age , that would be a thought, but they start at 6 months of age. Showing is not just to judge the stud dogs and brood bitches . It is for judging what has been produced too, which means those not old enough to be OFA'd. Sometimes those younger ones are better than the older ones that day in the ring. The best regulations one can go by are the ones you set yourself. Our first instinct when someone tells us we have to do something is to say jump off a ledge. I'm the first one to do exactly the thing I am told I cannot do <g> and smile the whole time. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to do what I feel is right for the dogs. It just means I don't like being told I have to do something. If your gut says OFA, then do it. Don't breed to dogs or bitches that aren't OFA'd. It's that simple in this land of " ya can't make me ". JMO Denise Groenewald _www.greenwoodshepherds.com_ (http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================