Evan is correct. At the German shows, imagine the Sieger show where they manage to judge 4,000 dog in THREE days. The T, T, and T is done the DAY BEFORE, papers examined, etc. The judge goes in and works them w/o having to do individuals. It DOES work, certainly the efficiency of the Sieger show is a testament to that. Much of our problem is GETTING DOGS INTO THE RING efficiently. and the DOWNTIME between classes. There were in the classes after all said and done: (according to our tally) 81 dogs, 95 bitches. Total. 41 BOB dogs and 44 BOB Bitches , It shouldn't have taken FOUR DAYS to judge so few dogs. I am sure our new show chairman will have things moving along by next year. Part of the problem with BORING is people lose interest when it takes 20 minutes to get 20 dogs into the ring. It is boring when there is so much time just standing around. I doubt this will be the problem next year , as it was recently. Call me crazy, but come on, it isn't the judging that is the problem, it is the lack of ability to move the show along before / after classes that is causing such a zzzzzzzzzz delay for everyone. http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com Updated: Oct 20, 2008 ~ HOME OF:: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WE SUPPORT DRUG AND DYE TESTING ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================