I asked for your statistics on how it was better. And this is what you come back with? "If we have made the breed worse, then all the hard work of breeders and exhibiters for the last 50 years was a waste." Sounds like a politician.ugh. Everybody got stroked. ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 11/30/2004 5:51:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx writes: Ohhhh come on! You're wrong Evan. The health of this breed is NOT better from "years ago". You must be looking at this from your own little corner. Take in the BIG picture and you will see..... Everyone sees the glass the way they want. I wonder if a vote might show what people think. If we have made the breed worse, then all the hard work of breeders and exhibitors for the last 50 years was a waste. Which of use has been breeding to ruin the breed? There was a time there was no OFA, and no one knew about bad hips. There was a time when bad bites finished. There was a time when a dog that growled in the ring, was accepted. There was a time when a few judges judged all the shows, and a few breeders won all the points. That was then, this is now, and I prefer now. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ The only way to understand & estimate the nature of the dog is to study his whole development. Such a task requires a sympathetic, dog-loving observer, who tries as far as possible to enter into the innermost mind of the dog, and who will know how to short-circuit all his purely human points of view. --Max von Stephanitz --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================