Have you read Dave's commentary in the Review? The car analogy? As far as lowering the bar...we did that last year when we were the first breed to have a fault class at our national. I don't know how many all-breed shows you get to...I get to a few. We were the laughing stock of the fancy. IMO deservedly so. Now, we all get an occasional coat. Cute puppies. You know...I have a nephew. He is very active in sports, skiing, gymnastics, swimming/diving. Very good at all to if I may say so. So, one of the first times we (as a family), went to an after ski party, medals were awarded. I clapped for all, of course naturally louder for my nephew, crazy/proud aunt that I am. Within minutes it became clear that everyone got a medal. You could have gone down the slope on your behind...bronze. That's fine when you're five I guess. After a while, it's not so good. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 8/14/2013 1:50:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: .....the standard is what we say it is...we created it, we change it, and sometime in the future we will change it again......I get confused when folks say a white dog would be lowering the "Bar".....how so?....because of its white color?......some don't like blacks or sables...but if they meet the standard their hair color is insignificant...so whether we let whites in or not....they will have to compete in the same ring and conform to the same standard....no one is lowering the BAR...Ed ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================