[ SHOWGSD-L ] The Standard - does anyone care? LONG

  • From: Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT)

After reading about what constitutes a hockwalker and what people interpret as 
correct movement and the difference between the AB verses specialty dog, and 
why white dogs should be accepted in some form, I went back and reread the 
Standard.  What I found based on the posts on this list and my own observations 
is that the only thing that seems to really matter with regard to breeding 
GSD?s, is movement.  I know there has been talk of rewriting the standard in 
the past and it wouldn?t be a bad idea.  We could just have one line that says, 
any shepherd-like dog that can obtain the ?flying gait? should be deemed the 
ideal representative of the breed. 

Do you know that the words flying gait don?t even appear in the standard.  If 
you read it?and read it the way it was meant to read not some interpretation of 
what you want to see, I think what you see is a description of a muscular 
powerful low stationed dog, beautiful and noble, that moves with such ease that 
it can herd livestock all day but has such power that it excels any variety of 
protection-type roles making it one of the most versatile breeds in the world.  
Nowhere in the standard does it suggest or imply that all aesthetic qualities 
of the GSD can be sacrificed in order to achieve the flying gait. 

This is why you hear such criticism not only from the novice standing ringside 
at a specialty show, but true dog person that can identify what constitutes 
correct movement and what is some mutation of a good idea gone bad.  Many of 
the GSD?s being shown today have a laundry list of faults that identify them as 
inferior animals in the eyes of novice and the experienced breeder alike, but 
because they can fly around the ring they are what is winning and consequently 
identified as the best representatives of breed.  This is why you hear so many 
complaints about conformation people ruining the breed. 

I realize that there is nothing more spectacular or exciting than watching a 
great moving dog effortlessly flying around a huge grassy ring?..but at some 
point the overall quality of the dog has to be taken into consideration.  The 
argument could be that since GSD?s are basically working dogs, it shouldn?t be 
a beauty contest, but lets face it, a herding dog does not need to move like 
the dogs that are currently being shown in the specialty rings to be successful 
and most of the herding dogs I?ve seen don?t come close to having the angles 
that specialty dogs do.  In fact, everyone seems to forget that GSD?s did just 
fine when they were actually used as working dogs on ranches and farms, so if 
the goal is to breed the ultimate working dog then the way to do that is 
emulate the dogs from decades past not create a new variation because it?s 
exciting and entertaining to watch it moving at the end of a lead. 

I love specialty shows, love running around the ring, making ?cat in heat? 
sounds to get my dog?s attention, just love the excitement of it, but it is so 
depressing to see dog after dog with flopping ears or ear sets so bad they look 
cartoonish, horribly feet, round goofy eyes, so much angle they can?t even walk 
as the standard suggests (functional cripples?), long backed, gazelle-like 
legs, weak pasterns, dogs that look like bitches bitches that look like 
offspring of some hybrid wild dingo and so on?.win again and again?because they 
can move.   

IMO a good breeder regardless of the breed of dog should always try to create 
the ideal complete package (according to the standard) rather than concentrate 
on one aspect of the package that is currently hot in the show ring.  I haven?t 
been around long enough to remember how badly angulated dogs were fifteen years 
ago, ?..so maybe things are improving.   

And lest anyone think I?m anti-specialty or that I?m suffering from sour 
grapes, that is not the case at all.  I saw some of the nicest bitches at a 
recent specialty, particularly in the Am-bred Class that seemed to represent 
the entire package.  I really want to be successful in the specialty ring but I 
absolutely refuse to breed my ?correct? (according to the standard) moving 
bitches to ultra extreme dogs (with god awful faults) just so I can be 
competitive.  My hope is that this trend dies out similar to the whole ?peanut 
roller? fad that infected the Western Pleasure Horse (horse folks will require 
no further explanation), in the eighties and early nineties.    

In the meantime I?ll just sit tight, enter specialties for fun (yes I still 
show for fun) and finish my dogs in the all-breed rings?.where the judges might 
be clueless (according to some on this list) but at least they follow (and 
know) the standard?it?s the only guide they have afterall?.so don?t anyone tell 
them anything different <G>?And please don?t criticize the judge that puts up 
the beautiful GSD correct in every way that is a good mover over it?s leggy 
splayed toed counterpart that simply flies?.there is nothing in the standard 
that suggests he do otherwise.

 

Finally to clarify a few points for those that will nitpick.

 

The standard is open for interpretation?.

Angulated dogs can be successful herding dogs

Not every specialty dog breeder has forgotten what the ?complete? package is

Moderate angulation is required to propel and drive the dog forward.

Breeding is an art not a science, even with the best intentions faults occur or 
are in the lines and it can take many generations to eliminate them.

My dogs are not without faults and my bitches could use more rear to add 
balance and drive.  

Not all all breed judges interpret the standard correctly.

Not all specialty judges are blinded to everything but movement?and they can 
only judge what is presented to them.

No I do not feel we should be producing a style of dog that was popular in the 
50?s.

Regardless of what takes precedence in a breeding program, health and 
temperament should always come first.

Dingo?s do not have any angle so in reality could not produce specialty 
bitches?.

And so on?.

 

JMO

Cindy




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