You know, I have to say, I entered 5 or 6 shows with Ranger, and everytime, we were at the back of the line....but I have every single one of his "loser" ribbons. I kept them, because, while to most people, they are "Loser" ribbons, to me it signified a start in the breed. I've got yellow ribbons and red ribbons, and what not, and pink ribbons from matches, but I kept them. Sentimental I guess. I can understand not wanting to keep a "big win" ribbon, but at least be somewhat discrete when you toss out a ribbon you got, because if someone (espeically the judge) catches you, it's like you're throwing their hardwork in the trash, and discrediting them. - Jackie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================