Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the advice, you hit a learning curve every day doesn't matter what you do. As for changing breeds, Never! I love shepherds to much. I had a lady who does the hanling classes tell me a story of a cavalier, it was heartbreaking for the owner, and I couldn't imagine putting in so much time and money to find out you have to have your friend put down. I know things happen in every breed, it is just a gamble. Been there with the horses to. Its like going to the casino to hopefully win and when your money is all gone, you wonder why did I go.... I will just keep on going, one foot in front of the other. Thanks everyone Giselda ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================