Drop the class. JMO. Ann Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx wrote:I remember when the conditional class was first offered, the AOE and Select Excellent didn't exist. Now that they do, we probably don't need a class to showcase dogs that have more prestigious awards for the same requirments. As I understand it, the conditional class can be defined for whatever the breed club wants to emphasize? Maybe the requirements should be changed for dogs that have the PC Health Certificates. I think it would be worthwhile to showcase dogs that are not only OFA hips and elbows, but also good on thyroid, pacreatic function, heart, etc. Structure can be seen, but we don't always know which dogs in the specials class have been tested clear of many problems our breed suffers from. Since so many of us at the National are "shopping for bloodlines" to breed into, it would be great to showcase those quality animals whose owners have had more than the usual health tests run on them. JMHO, Janice Buchanan --------------------- In a message dated 3/4/2005 12:49:59 AM Mountain Standard Time, marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: *************************************** I agree. When we have an elite award called Award Of Excellence and Select Excellent that is for exactly the same thing on dogs that go Select......it almost seems to minimize it when it is also made just a Class......?? I sure don't get it! Seems an obvious choice if we really do want to streamline the National. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================