People may have "respect" for this breeder--possibly this is because they don't know (as Paul Harvey would put it) the REST of the story. I lived in WNY in the 70-80s--Lawtons, NY is about an hour from what used to be called "SHILOH SHEPHERDS." And yes, at that time they WERE AKC registered German Shepherd Dogs. He who should not be named used to give his talk on HD there and he judged matches there--I even went to both a seminar and a match at SHILOH SHEPHERDS in the early 80s. Mary Belle Adelman (sp?) was at the match too. At that time, Ma Shiloh had between 20-30 GSDs. I believe in the mid 80's she was thrown out of the AKC for something--it was then and only then that she "developed" her own breed. (LOL--yeah, what else could she do with 20-30 GSDs that she could no longer register with the AKC?!) She is a great PR person who could widely appeal to both the novice AND the person who thinks "bigger is better." Dedication to health testing? How about dedication to money! She could sell the Brooklyn Bridge, but then we all know people like that. Since I used to know her way back when, the comments she makes are laughable. I saw Gandalf on TV--to me he looks like a bi-color GSD--One thing's for sure--he's a wonderful worker, no matter what his lineage! Penny in NY ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================