Guess I should have read the Wheaten standard also!  Diane BISS Ch. Echo-Cham's River Phoenix OFA H&E AKA "River" Ch. Da-Jo's Crestview Ironman AKA "Tony" Candia's Hard Rock Candy v Tejas AKA "Rocky" Echo-Cham's Satin Doll v Tejas AKA "Dolly" --- On Sun, 8/15/10, blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx <blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx <blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Scissoring & the AKC To: texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 3:59 PM #yiv1305014616 p {margin:0;} Having finished more than my fair share of wheatens, I thought I would jump in here.. CORRECTION! It does not say that the wheaten cannot be trimmed, they had that "in the beginning" when no one knew what to do with them. it says specifically in the Soft Coated Wheaten Standard...(and I bolded and blackened a few of the important things to think about when trimming a wheaten) Presentation--For show purposes, the Wheaten is presented to show a terrier outline, but coat must be of sufficient length to flow when the dog is in motion. The coat must never be clipped or plucked. Sharp contrasts or stylizations must be avoided. Head coat should be blended to present a rectangular outline. Eyes should be indicated but never fully exposed. Ears should be relieved of fringe, but not taken down to the leather. Sufficient coat must be left on skull, cheeks, neck and tail to balance the proper length of body coat. Dogs that are overly trimmed shall be severely penalized. So in short, its "trimming a dog without making it look trimmed" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Brantley" <texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:37:32 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Scissoring & the AKC Scissoring is not against AKC rules, many breeds are scissored.� I just re-read our standard to make sure of my facts.� Our standard is silent on the subject of trimming or scissoring.� There are some breeds, like the Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier, whose standard specifically says no trimming, but ours does not. � Diane � Msg: #7 in digest From: Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Coats & GC bitch Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:59:51 -0400 And I almost always agree with you--you KNOW me; I'm either negative� nor a finger pointer. . .but isn't scissoring against the AKC rules?��� Isn't it changing the appearance?� That is what the point has been� with me--if this bitch is so good, then show her "au natural." Penny in NC BISS Ch. Echo-Cham's River Phoenix OFA H&E AKA "River" Ch. Da-Jo's Crestview Ironman AKA "Tony" Candia's Hard Rock Candy v Tejas AKA "Rocky" Echo-Cham's Satin Doll v Tejas AKA "Dolly"     ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2010.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================