[ SHOWGSD-L ] Resources; Pedigree Cards and History

From: "Daphne Hereford" <Daphne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:22:34 -0500

Yes Evan I have the Ditan Pedigree Cards in the Museum. There are about 26,000
of the handwritten cards from the 1950s for GSDs. Some of these pedigrees I am
not sure AKC even has. If there is anything I can do to help with the project,
please just let me know.

I have attached one of the cards (I hope the picture isn’t too big) – for Odin
v Busecker Schloss, Ch, PH, ROM, Int. Ch. (German Sieger and U.S. Ch.) – note
the way Bob Ditmars listed the titles – behind the dog’s name so the cards
could all be filed alphabetically.

The hash marks on the cards indicated the number of times he (Bob Ditmars)
typed a pedigree for that dog – in this case he did 11 of them. Bob Ditmars was
a well-known breeder of Cocker Spaniels and everyone back in the day used his
pedigree service for GSDs because he had the best records of anyone.

Note he also indicates on the card there is an article in the Review September
1959 on page 43 about Odin. Dows anyone have that article – I used to but I
think it was taken some time ago.

We are in the process of finding a permanent public home for the Museum so
everyone can enjoy it.

Daphne Hereford

AKC Breeder of Merit

RIN TIN TIN Line Dogs

<http://www.hollywooddogs.com/> www.HollywoodDogs.com

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Daphne has a large collection of the breed cards. She can explain what they
are, but she brought some of them to the National in Anaheim. They show the
early breedings of our breed.

Evan

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Kay,

You are exactly right - the history NEEDS TO WRITTEN DOWN - of course
old videos are valuable and need to be "stored" and made available to regional
clubs as educational tools. The "EARLY YEARS BOOKLET" being put together by Tom
Brown contained information which cannot be found ANYWHERE ELSE. It required
hours upon hours of research and tracking down family members of the clubs
ORIGINAL BOARD. How about hand written MINUTES of one of the first Board
Meetings - minutes taken by our first Secretary? To the best of my knowledge
this information CANNOT BE PUT ON DVD'S OR UTUBE - correct me if I am mistaken.
Thankfully, Tish Walker sent us THE ORIGINAL BULLETIN'S (PRECUSSOR TO REVIEW)
DATING BACK 1914 TO THE LATE 1920'S - these were sent onward to Tom Brown for
the Centennial booklet. Some of the articles & photos in those Bulletins ARE
ABSOLUTELY PRICLESS!! One such series of articles was Reginald Cleveland's
discussion of the Standard - and how to interpret the Standard. There were
several interviews conducted by the late, knowledgeable Gail Sprock. I found
one the other day which was an interview with Bob and Maryellen Kish and one
with Kathy Steen. There is also a 2 page list of old time members that are
still with us that need to be contacted. This is why we, Dorothy and I,
suggested a HISTORICAL COMMITTEE to begin the task of collecting as much of our
history as possible. And by the way there is a taped interview with Helen
Miller Fisher.

Nancy Harper-Mulvaney

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I agree that we need to have our history written down. I had hoped
Scootie Sherlock would do it at one time. I would love to see the Board move
this forward using many of the people who have been mentioned. I had lunch with
Dorothy Linn today and asked her to bring it up at the Board meeting this
weekend.

Or does the membership have to draft a petition to get something
done that should have been done a long time ago?

Kay Springer, Showboat
Shepherds
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Nancy Harper Mulvaney
<nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank You Theresa !!!!!

As the

great Annie Clark said, " How can you know where you are going if you don't
know where you came from' Of course she is referring to the dogs/bitches that
were used in the formation of our breed and then the ones that followed that
beginning.

This all came back to mind when I had the honor of judging in

CA this past weekend. I had the pleasure of visiting with Tom and Vivian Brown,
Gloria and Cappy, Jerry Graham, Linda and Bob Freeney, The Newtons, Tedi
Ginsburg, and of course Deb Kaser of the hosting club and all their hard working
and welcoming club members. Seeing all of these "historic" GS breeders and
exhibitors brought to mind the many, many educational and intriguing stories
each could relate - wouldn't it be great if we had these historic stories in one
booklet. We are fortunate to have the " Goldbecker/Hart, Jane Bennett, Jim
Moses/ Wynn Strickland wonderful GS books = BUT we do not have a written
collected and produced HISTORY OF OUR FOUNDING.

Nancy Harper-Mulvandy

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GSDC

I would love to have a copy of Tom's Booklet as I am sure many others

would too. I am willing to buy a copy of it privately or through the GSDCA
Club. Today seems that the History of the people involved in the past or the
GSDs or their pedigrees are not as important anymore.

Without this there is

way too important events and GSDs lost and forgotten.

(the Booklet to be

entitled “THE EARLY

YEARS” authored by Tom was to be part of the Centennial

– Tom’s

booklet was full of great stories of our past. )

There are

still many great people like Tom, Linda, Dorothy as well as many others that try
to keep this alive but unless it is saved and documented it will be lost
forever.

Theresa
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Mon, 4/20/15, Nancy Harper Mulvaney <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

That is exactly why the suggestion was made to have a permanent

HISTORICAL COMMITTEE, with Dorothy, & Tom Brown on that committee – the Booklet
to be entitled “THE EARLY YEARS” authored by Tom was to be part of the
Centennial – Tom’s booklet was full of great stories of our past. Tom’s
booklet was shelved in favor of a book covering our 100 years – a tough job – a
new Historical Committee was appointed by our President & Board. I remember
Reginald Cleveland way back when.

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