One thing I would definitely love to see done that would be very informative.... is for the National Chair to give a complete Financial report on the National itself ....by itself.....after each National....at whatever meeting this is possible. From sheep to seating to sod......... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Stoesser To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx ; DaList Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:17 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National TeleConference Call I am in absolute agreement that the information discussed and the decisions made at the Board meetings should be public information. I also believe that if a decision is made, there was a basis for it and that the membership should be able to understand what it was - whether they agree with it or not. The time for the membership to decide whether they agree or not with the positions of the Board meetings is in the annual election. Some members do their research about various positions and choose who to vote for wisely; some vote based on name recognition. Same thing happens in every organization and even in the various governments in our county. Some people have informed votes; some people don't. I'm a big fan of using technology to solve problems (where it makes sense). Having said that, I've observed that teleconferencing is a giant leap for any organization. I have been employed by large organizations that have made the transition but it have NOT been overnight. It's been a process that evolved over time and evolved differently within each organizations. It's more than technology; it's a big leap in people dynamics to go from meeting in person to meeting over an Internet connection and phone line where you're not in the same room with the person who is speaking. Like members of this List, some of the Board members are more experienced with technology and computers than others. Why don't we give the Board a chance to test this concept and learn how to walk before everyone jumps in and starts pushing for them to run a marathon. The meeting will still be recorded and BOGs and minutes will still be sent out. Pam -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Scheubler Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:29 PM To: DaList Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National TeleConference Call I think it should be some via a live internet feed. That way there would be no danger of "editorial comments", if that is what they are afraid of. Ruth ________________________________ From: "Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx" <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 10:18:44 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National TeleConference Call I am hoping the same Evan. If they have tele conference meetings members should be able to attend and not have to pay a lot to do so. Some of the places that support these meeting can cost 5 to 10 cents a minutes for everyone to call in. The GSDC of Canada has a 800 number for their board to phone in and I believe the membership could also phone in at no cost. Would not like to see members not included in the meetings for the GSDCA. Also understand a board member is trying to go back to the no cell phone, no computers at open meetings. I can see why ringing would be bothersome, but for the sake of emergencies, I doubt a vibrating phone would be a bother. As to computers, perhaps Evans free flow of information was too much for some to cope with. Cannot comprehend why club business should be a secret at any time. Its a dog club for heavens sake! I would hope our board members see a point of reason that information is always the highway especially if they want to include the members in their club. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, lifetime member CKC "Blessed are the cracked, for they let in the light" In a message dated 4/5/2011 10:42:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: Why can't the board meetings be done this way? I know that the membership is interested in seeing our board in action, and perhaps those who are not members might just appreciate how hard our board works for the good of the breed. =========================================================================== POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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