>>EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx writes:>>Question when you outcross to correct do you use a dog that has >>the problem? Or do you use a dog that is free of that problem? If you use a >>dog free of the problem how do you know if it was the outcross or the fact that you used two dogs that were free of the problem? Fred M ************************************ >Hi Fred: > . For example, say you have a bitch from a litter with Mega and >she herself, > appears to be okay..and she is examined for Mega, .and you want to outcross > her, then first you have to find a Stud dog with a pedigree that doesn't go > back to Shepherds who have Mega, or comes from Mega affected litters or have > it in their bloodlines..thru Grandparents/siblings/cousins /Aunts and > > Uncles....> > Let's say the Stud dog you select doesn't have Mega and it is not in his > bloodlines... There are no common Shepherds in 5 generations which the two > potential partners share... ******************************************** FIRST.....how do you find out about siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, gr.sons, gr. dams, gr. parents on one side and all their litters and litter mates, neices, etc.???? How do you know some weren't lost early and there are no records??? While you're researching Mega.....are you also eliminating Elbow/ hip problems, any chance of epilepsy if the dog is under 3 yrs....pancreatic problems, bloat problems, ( all of which are a painful problem because they show up later when placed in homes ) what about missing teeth or poor temperament .... or just plain poor quality not worth breeding your bitch to, but "cleared" of Mega for 5 generations....if thats possible..... And WHY would we want 5 generations of no common relatives unless the quality and health issues were so bad we had to get away from it???? If they both carry the same gene for something.......you'll still get it in the pups. So many questions............so little time.............sigh........I have no answer.... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx http://www.marhaven.com/bookerskids.htm > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================