I had a very similar experience with a pup years ago with almost the same symptoms even had him xrayed around 7/8 months and sent to OFA. Came back good hips, normal elbows, vet excused as pano, seemed to be doing better, gave him meds, sent him home and said he would be fine to play but may still limp here and there, and for them not to worry and no need to limit his exercise. About 1 MONTH later, after OFA xrays, symptoms came back but seemed to be getting worse with his one foot turning more. Xrayed AGAIN, and they changed drasticlly, bone spur on his left elbow, vet said he had elbow dysplasia. Contacted OFA, sent them new xrays, they said he was normal,he does NOT have elbow dysplasia and they see bone spurs in other breeds,and he is NOT dysplastic. Sent to OVC, they said he WAS dysplastic in his elbow., and had no explanation of the drastic change in the xray in a matter of only a few weeks time. Univ of Penn, said he needed surgery to remove it. His owners opted for the surgery, and he has been fine since. So the question is was it just pano, an injury not diagnosed and treated properly, or was it elbow dysplasia? To dio it again, I would have had his owners do alot of things differently, since to this day I have no clue what really caused it siunce if it was an injury maybe he should have rested, or maybe it may have happened either way. That said, I'd be careful with your boy don;t push him, and you may need to xray wa few times just to "make sure" there are no changes over time. Ann Marie www.amarigsd.com Home of Ch Fairway's Leah v Nadelwald TC ROM OFA Ch Amari's Beware of Foxy Roxy CGC TC OFA Amari's Elizabeth Taylor (Major pointed/Best in Show Bred-By winner) Breeder/Owner of R/Best in Futurity Ch Amari's Ava Gardner TC OFA Ch Amari's Bandit of Broadcreek OFA (Multiple Group Placer) Amari's Blissfull Jazz CGC TDI (Major pointed) Amari's Cinderella von Hornberger (Ch pointed) Amari's Chances Are (Ch pointed) Amari's Ella Enchanted (Ch pointed @ 7 months/Major Reserve @ 11 months) --- On Thu, 9/2/10, Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Puppy With Bad Limp To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 4:16 PM I have a 7-1/2 month old male puppy that has been limping pretty badly on his left front now for about six weeks. He went to the vet about five weeks ago and had his elbows and hips and his left shoulder x-rayed. Everything looked normal. He was on Deramaxx for ten days...did not help at all.....x-rays showed slight pano on left side. Now when he gaits when he goes to put his left foot on the ground he kinda turns it out to the left and will not put his full weight on it.......any ideas out there what might be causing him to do this??? So much for the wasted dog show entry money for this weekend! I have had lots of dogs with pano but I have not had one turn his foot out like he does and he had a perfect front when standing until about a week and a half ago. He is happy and running and playing and eating...any ideas...TIA. Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Board Member Last Hope Safe Haven http://lasthopesafehaven.com Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises & Tortoise Rescue Behold The Turtle, He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out A Quote By James B. Conant ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2010. 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