Well, I am just getting myself functioning after getting to bed at 3 am Thursday. Tina went into labor about 10 am Thursday and just could not seem to push long and hard enough to deliver a puppy. We were monitoring her with the Whelp Wise system and it showed contractions time after time but no delivery results. I called our superb Vet, Dr Katherine Settle about 5PM and after discussion, I headed to Sanford (50 miles from Raleigh). She examined Tina and after further discussion, we agreed to doing a C-section. Her husband John Schontz, who is the cutter in the family (surgeon) came in and did the C-section about 7:30pm. He, Katherine and her great team of supporting vet tech's delivered 4 boys and 4 girls. (That is why I drive that far, because they are outstanding) Brought everyone home about 11pm and sat with Tina until 3 am when I faded into bed. Then at 6:30 am Friday I checked them and Tina is keeping them beautifully clean, they are nursing properly and all is well. A special thanks to Scott & Loren for guiding us to Bronson, to Sheri and Jimmy for making him available and working with us to making it so convenient. A great big thanks to Charlotte and Larry Gilbert for managing and making the breeding happen while Sheri was in Canada at shows. Our grandchildren are insisting on visiting rights today immediately after St Francis of Assisi lets them out. They would all have played hooky but their moms said no. Regards Thank you St Francis, Patron of Animals for such a wonderful & healthy litter. Bill & Jeri PS: Oh yes, weights were between 15 and 17 oz. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================