Sally wrote: "It is up to the people who have first hand knowledge to report pilling. We all know it goes on and who the people are that do it." The Problem is that Knowing it and being able to Prove it are two different things. Reporting it will do little or no Good without Evidence (Photographic, perhaps) to back up any Allegations. I think that most of us have CellPhones with Cameras in them, that can be put on Silent Mode, to get some incriminating Evidence that would stand up in an AKC Hearing. Sally is quite right when she says that we should refuse to hire the Handlers who do it, and refuse to deal with Owners who tolerate it, and let them know WHY you won't deal with them. That's known as a Market Solution to the Problem, but by itself, I don't think it would be as effective as when coupled with Ironclad Proof. Steve Board Member Last Hope Safe Haven for German Shepherds http://www.lasthopesafehaven.com "Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence, (I conjure you to believe me fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of Republican Government." --George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================