I am not sure exactly what you're asking.... but, Lux (Aischa's sire) is in the Pedigree Database... http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/652.html Aischa's dam's sire Harry v Basilisk is by VA Odin v Tannenmeise SchH3,FH out of VA Gora v Basilisk SchH3. Odin is a Quanto vd Wienerau son, and Gora is by Dingo v Haus Gero. If you want more I can find it. Ginger Cleary - Rome, GA www.rihadin.com <http://www.rihadin.com> "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error."United States Supreme Court, American Communications Association v. Douds, 339 US 382 (1950) -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:05 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Pedigree help Pedigree Guru's, I need your help. Due to a flub on my dog's pedigree, part of his pedigree has changed, and I need help with some of the dogs. I hear Marjorie is really good with the American lines, and Barb W with the West German, but anybody who has any insight at all to these "new" dogs in Strauss' pedigree (branching off Aischa von der Wenberg) I could use the info. http://www.fluffyrat.net/wildfyre/StraussPed.htm - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================