Morning Folks I want to thank everyone for all the e-mails we got concerning the use of oxytocin. As I said before, we have used it for years without any problem, and everyone, to a person agreed with me. But when our Vet said there were now some big problems with it's use, we took her word for it and it cost us 4 puppies. I guess her theory was, "if they have a problem, get them in to the clinic so we can get their money" First of all, we are almost an hour away, and secondly, as this was a middle of the night litter (as usual) I doubt she would have gotten out of bed to come in anyway. And even if she did I would be afraid of what it would have cost us. She has been our Vet for quite a while and knows us well, and as a breeder herself, of Labradors but still a breeder, we trusted her. Big mistake. We have paid them a lot of money over the years but that is over. I guess they really needed the money and their bank account was more important than the well being of our dogs. BTW they have give us oxytocin many time before but apparently decided this time they needed the money. I must say that this seems to be the attitude of a lot of the Vets up this way. I don't know what it is like in other areas but that seems to be the way it is up here. Now, the few hundred dollars they thought they would make over this will now cost them thousands in the long run. We certainly don't mind paying, but we do expect good service and honesty, especially from someone that we put our trust in for so long (and paid so much money to) So now the search is on for a new Vet. Wayne & Lynne ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================