In a message dated 4/25/2005 8:39:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, uwish@xxxxxxxxxx writes: Fronts were short on some, reaching from the elbow, or reaching from a not properly laid back shoulder that was pushed up to much. You see a lot of that. The scary thing is that you see it in (some) moving pictures in the Review too, so while some folks give correct fronts "lip service", it's obvious some folks don't know what a good front is...or else why use a picture of a dog moving from the elbow? Hey, you know what would be a good Review idea....remember Glamour Magazine, they used to take snap shots of people on the street, what they were wearing for a particular season, put a black box over their eyes or head, and labeled the snap shot "Glamour DO" or "Glamour DON'T"? I wonder if there is a way to do the dogs in black & white and/or shield their identity enough to have a "GSD DO", GDS DON'T" feature? Rears were lovely, mostly clean coming and going. This all being said, my main observation which disturbed me and I found consistent throughout the classes...... I didn't see one loose lead moving dog. It goes back to the who the judge is, what they'll accept and what they put up in spite of "asking" for a loose lead. After a while you know who means business and who doesn't.... plus after one class of someone who WASN'T following directions going up, the handlers know the score. And... I have no idea where you were yesterday Barbara, so my comments aren't directed at a particular judge. Kathy three generations of Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================