In a message dated 10/3/11 11:06:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, michel@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Looking at the select dogs Sel#8 to Sel#19 are in perfect catalog order with the WD bringing up the rear.. That being the case those should just be listed as Select with no number as a number does not seem to mean anything beyond the first few at the front. Or should they all be listed as Select #8 -- since they seem to be equal. Something to think about... Ed has always said, that except for the first four or five, the rest of the Selects are the same in his mind. In other words he elimated what he did not feel was Select quality and gave the rest the title. He didn't both to rearrange them, as to Ed, they are equal. I think if you don't plan to go within the first five or six dogs at the national, and Ed is judging enter early. I do understand the idea that the number 8 Select is not two Selects times better than the number 10, who is five times better than the number 15. I get Ed's point. So, after he decided on the first four or five, he didn't bother to arrange the rest. Iget the point. I don't know if I would have spent more time deciding who is 16 or 17 Select. But, no one asked me to either. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================