I agree with Ken, but as I understand it, the Germans did not allow coats to be shown in regular classes, and the special coat stock does not compete in the normal shows. Maybe I have that wrong. I spend little time in subjects that do not interest me. The point should be, not what anyone else does, but what is best for our breed. When the handlers complained that at the Futurities the amateur could not compete with the professionals, they came up with an amateur class, and a different show. If the Long Coats can't compete with the standard, they now are suggesting we have a separate class so they don't have to compete in the class with the standard dogs. I see a pattern here. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 6/20/12 8:13:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tanksr@xxxxxxxxx writes: We don't need to do what the Germans or anyone else does, but if someone has an idea that brings in new people wouldn't it be a good idea to at least consider it? I don't have any ego about copying an idea that works. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================