Not every judge knows of what they say, and each has their own opinion. I would not be impressed by any one judge or what they say, without knowing more. I remember a bitch I showed in 1982. A well respected judge gave her ninth place in the open class out of nine being shown. Two weeks later she went to the National and went winners bitch out of American Bred, and went on to number two Select that show. So, each opinion is just that. Evaluate your own, consider who the judge or exhibitor is, and then do what you feel is best. My current Grand Champion Select dog is being campaigned in the all-breed ring now. He has 14 Best of Breeds, a Group 1,2,3, and 4. So far it seems to be going well. Listen to everyone, but reject those who you feel aren't correct. Evan In a message dated 6/4/2014 5:33:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jolisgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: I would have been quite satisfied with how things went except that the judge told her handler as she handed him the third place ribbon -- "once she fills out a bit, you might try the all-breed ring." ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================