I hope all of you realize that AKC is a business....they are in business to make money not lose it...If income from litter registrations & puppy registrations drop, they will make it up someplace else. The other main source of their income is dog shows(conformation & performance).....If there is a significient drop the income from registrations for 2 or 3 years, AKC will then raise the application fee to hold dog shows and also raise the fee to record the results.....Clubs are going to pass on this raise in fees......the only ones with enough reserve funds will be All Breed Clubs & Parentt Clubs then entry fees will double or triple..that will limit entries greatly.................AKC sets the rules, eeither play by the rules or don't play...there is nothing you can do to change AKC........tilting at windmills does not accomplish anything Judy Judsohn German Shepherds judsohngsd.@xxxxxxx Visit our website judsohngsd.com But Judy (and everyone), here's the thing. Who cares if they raise the fees for dog shows or not? If no one registers their dogs, they won't be going to shows anyway. And furthermore, if no one registers litters to withdraw support from the AKC, then no one can get an ILP to compete in performance either because wouldn't that be supporting the AKC too? I mean you pay for the ILP and for the show entries, right? The whole concept seems rather flawed. Also, if that's the way everyone was to go this list would cease to exist as well. Maybe a new list could be formed or something. We could call it "The cut off our nose to spite ourselves list" of maybe the "I Love to show dogs but can't because the AKC Bites" list or something. Yep, the whole concept of not registering dogs with the AKC, and withholding registrations papers to limit support of the AKC seems rather flawed to me. But that's JMO. Evan, isn't there something else we can discuss? What's on the schedule? -Bob George Enchanted Vista, Home of: Sam of the Rocks, Ch Rocknoll Ajax Nike Clayfield CD, Alkay's Black Velvet, Jerrwen's Southern Belle, and Jerrwen's Georgiana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================