I have been reading the post about how new people approach members at shows and get the cold shoulder...My thought is ???Who did they buy their dog from??My first shepherd I bought I went to a decent breeder ..They the breeders gave my great advice sent me to a Club and also gave me training classes to go to..At the club I met other new puppy owners and met with the old timers who gave great advice..We stuck together the new puppy owners shared stories went to see other breeders and their dogs..Bought all the dog books..Went to specialty shows where we met the Judges at the dinners..Talked and talked and observed and learned..Cant the new dog owners do the same..I never once felt like an outsider nor did the old timers seem rude just knowledgeable..I didnt start breeding until I felt secure I could handle breedings and having puppies...Barbara Amidon another great day in Malaga http://www.geocities.com/amberkennel ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================