The only GV and GVX bred together, that I know of, were: GV CH. Ingo Wunschelrute , ROM and GVX CH. Afra v. Heilholtkemp, ROM. They were both German imports. The National Specialty that Ingo won was his 3rd dog show so he GV from the classes. They both won in 1952 and were both owned by Waldenmark Kennels. I am not sure how many CH.s they produced by they were numerous and the foundation of the beautiful moving Waldenmark dogs. I wonder if the Fisher's are still alive? I know they moved to Fla. some years ago. Joan --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Turley, Amber <act148@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Turley, Amber <act148@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] National trivia To: "GSD List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 11:38 AM Hi Pity Partiers, As I sat and read Evan's blog and marked my downloaded catalog, I started thinking of some questions. I missed much of the 80' and 90's (divorce will do that to you) Maybe some of you out there can answer them. Have there been other dogs or bitches that have taken GV or GVX from classes? Who were they? Has a veteran dog or bitch ever gone GV or GVX? Have GV and GVX of the same year ever been bred, and did they produce anything? What was the fewest number of Selects ever made? the greatest? Anyone able to answer any of these? I don't know them, but I bet somebody out there does! Amber Conti Turley ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================