[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: NIS Perspective
- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
- To: <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>, <ELG440@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:18:41 -0700
Great Post Peggy!! You put it in perspective.
I'm not sure what Evan's post was in regard to....but this absolutely is not
about
Lanalee. NO ONE doubts Lanalee or her Committees committment!!!!
But if we care about the Breed we better darn well care about the illustrations
of
what we consider a good dog if the drawing is to to illustrate the IDEAL GERMAN
SHEPHERD DOG. You all better take a good hard look, and make sure that is what
you want to take home and campaign in the ring as a great representative of the
Breed and our Standard.
Has NO ONE noticed that the drawing illustrating the Dog gaiting shows a dog in
FULL
EXTENSION DURING THE PERIOD OF SUSPENSION!!!??? This is impossible!! NO
animal including human beings has reached the maximum extension in it's stride
during the period of suspension......( and YES......even humans have
suspension!! )
The maximum extension is the split second when the REAR FOOT TOUCHES THE
GROUND....extending FULLY IN IT'S REAR DRIVE in the forward thrust, as the other
three extend fully in their reach and follow through......anything else is
totally
incorrect.
This is not about any one person, any grudge, any vendetta, any favoritism,
anything
at all except a totally incorrect drawing....much like the old paintings from
the 15th
Century that shows horses fully extended at a trot suspended in the
air........wrong!
ALSO, EVERY ARTIST knows that every part of the body is in perspective to the
head.
If the head is 'off size' the drawing can never be correct.
ALSO....the head is measured from the tip of the nose to the TOP of the
head....not to
the front of the ears.....hence the Elkhound or Akita look....and the cobby
looking
dog.
This is a 100 % rule except in the case of "deformed" man made breeds like
Bassetts,
or Daschunds or Bull Dogs.
All that being said.......the 'face on' head drawings are GORGEOUS AND
CORRECT.
WHY the larger or smaller ears are faulted is beyond me. Beautiful drawings
of the
head facing you. From the side.........not so much........<G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peggy" <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>To: <ELG440@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Perspective
> OK, let's start with this. This is serious stuff, this NIS. This
> list is about North American German Shepherds, not Iraq, or any other
> world problem. And, it's time to speak plainly. Nobody said anything
> against Lanalee personally. It's the product that's so awful. I
> believe the comment is directed at the drawings and at the individual
> who drew them, and to a lesser extent, to the wording of much of what's
> in this heap of nonsense. If Lanalee can't see that the drawings don't
> describe our best dogs, then maybe you can direct the comment at her and
> at her committee, but I believe what is getting everyone's knickers in a
> twist is the ridiculous drawings.
> In the first place, the person doing the drawings is very much
> against the style of dog wanted in the North American show ring. I find
> it difficult to believe that there is no one else around who will draw
> the right style of dog. Perhaps there is a problem getting someone to
> work for nothing? I say that with only half serious thought...I have
> been told that the artist was not to be paid. Perhaps that is untrue.
> In any case, having drawings done by someone who states plainly on her
> own website that the American style show German Shepherd is useless
> except as a pure pet should, all on its own, have prevented the
> committee from using this person's work.
> What, after all, is the purpose of the Illustrated Standard? One of
> the MAIN reasons any club publishes an IS is as an educational tool for
> would be and new judges of the breed...at AKC shows--not at Sieger
> shows, or WDA shows, or any other shows...just AKC shows! The drawings
> in this article are not the kind of dogs anyone I know wants to breed or
> to show. If they want that kind of dog they don't want to win in the
> AKC...it's as simple as that. Spending thousands of dollars to promote
> a dog no serious breeder would keep seems to me (and obviously to many
> others) to be a dirty great waste of money.
> I guarantee you that if you take these ridiculous drawings to any
> (and I do mean any) person coming new to the breed and then take
> him/her to a specialty show, he or she is going to think you are
> crazy. The pictures show one thing and everybody's breeding and showing
> something else. How stupid is that? In addition, 99 out of 100
> specialty judges would puke at any dogs who look like those drawings.
> If they didn't, they wouldn't get to judge more than once, maybe twice.
> If it's true that this IS represents someone's best efforts, then
> Sandra is right...somebody else needs a chance to do it right. This one
> needs to be scrapped and very speedily thrown into the circular file.
> If it took hundreds of hours, they were wasted hours...that's it in a
> nutshell.> Peggy
> ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> It is unfortunate it was stated that way. Lanalee has been working hard on
>>the new Illustrated Standard. Hundreds of hours have gone into it, and there
>>can be no question to her dedication to our breed.
>>
>>While you may not agree with the current product, it should not in any way
>>be any implication that those who have dedicated so much to it, did anything
>>less than their best efforts.
>>
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