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- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: Stormy435@xxxxxxx, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx, cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:43:02 EDT
I think this will save me some time. Here's the (complete) response to
Yate's ill informed "puff" piece from a member of the PAFDC who is also on the
dog law advisory board. You don't have to take my word for it; I back things
up.
My point IS and continues to be that forwarding "stuff" that is ill founded
or just plain false, ESPECIALLY when it has been demonstrated to be false
greatly diminishes the credibility of the sender.
Now I don't give two hoots about the credibility of those who continue to
send all of this false rhetoric about things they apparently can't or won't
comprehend because it doesn't fit with THEIR agenda, BUT because of their ill
advised efforts, getting others to e-mail, write letters etc., when their
premise IS so obviously false, the entire fancy is painted with the "fanatic"
brush.
I'm not saying you have to agree with something to forward it, but can you
just fact check before spreading rubbish?
You know the really comical thing about this thread? It's not the PA people
w/ their knickers in a twist. We understand the state is currently
handcuffed in those instances where a mill is federally licensed and we
understand
the need for better legislation. (For most, it isn't really a complicated
issue).
Thanks but no thanks for all of your "concern".
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John -
Please stop misreporting facts or reporting "discoveries" that are well
publicized.
Statement
"A firestorm of criticism by dog owners has delayed the introduction of
proposed new dog and kennel legislation for the third straight month. "
Comment
The Department has been working on this for months. In response to comments
by various stakeholder groups, they revised their original draft. It takes
time to do this and they haven't finished finalizing the legislation to
address all the comments made. No one except the Department thought they
would
meet their original timetable if they actually listened to all our comments.
The fact that this is delayed is a positive sign that they are working to make
our comments part of the final legislation they intend to submit. They say
they want to get it right (as they understand the issues) before sending it
forward. We will see how well they listened to all our comments when we see
the legislation that is submitted.
Statement
"The American Sporting Dog Alliance also has uncovered a plan to open dog
and kennel owners to pro-animal-rights ordinances on a local level, in every
city, borough, township and county in Pennsylvania.
Comment
This is a serious issue and would change current PA law if enacted.
However, the idiotic idea of this Senator Galloway was well publicized, as you
note
below, and required no "uncovering" by anyone. The PFDC position is that
people need to control both their animals and their children to avoid
incidents.
Statement
"We also are working to form strong alliances with other organizations,
including a powerful sportsmenâ??s organization that can reach more than
200,000
voters in one region of Pennsylvania alone, along with many other sportsmenâ??
s groups and farm organizations.
Question
If you are working closely with all these other groups, how come you haven't
participated in any of the discussions that have been held among the PFDC,
the Sportsmen's Alliance, the AKC, PIJAC, the owners of the PennDogLeg group,
the PA Veterinary Medical Association, Boarding kennels, Commercial breeders
and others working to bring about a successful resolution of this problems?
Statement
"Gov. Ed Rendell, who is a master of the political arts, appears to be
planning to take the legislation behind closed doors and into the realm of
political deal making. His strategy appears to be an effort to circumvent
publishing the legislation in The Pennsylvania Bulletin, which mandates a
period
for public comment that sent similar legislation back to the drawing board a
year ago."
Comment
You seem to misunderstand the difference between legislation and regulation.
Legislation is submitted to the legislature for their consideration and
action. It goes through a formal legislative process, frequently with public
testimony before the committee responsible for the legislation. Regulations
must be published in the PA Bulletin and there must be a period for public
comment, as there was last year when regulations were proposed. By putting
forward legislation, the Governor is responding to comments made by most of
the
groups I referred to above that we needed new law before we even considered
new
regulations. He is being responsive to the groups you claim to be working
with and you are complaining about it. That doesn't make much sense to me.
How well the Department understood our concerns and how they affected the
proposed legislation won't be known until we see it.
While we appreciate your work in all our interests and are wiling to work
with you, it really isn't appropriate to seek donations on an e-mail list of
another organization with which you claim to be working. Anyone on the PFDC
list who is interested in contributing to fighting these issues is welcome to
donate money to the PFDC or the AKC Legislative Fund to further our efforts.
If you are working with us, stop trying to raise funds from our members on
our list. If others post his comments to other lists, please edit out
solicitations for his group from posts to their group lists.
Julian Prager
Legislative Chair, PFDC
Member, DLAB
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In a message dated 4/21/2008 12:31:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes:
I think these two posts typify why just dismissing a broadly sent email by
Yates or anybody else is not wise.
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