Hello Kate, I just went through the same thing with one of my girls a few months ago. The first one was born dead and I could not revive it so I rushed her to the vet for an emergency c-section. We found one mummified pup, four pups that appeared to have died within the hour and managed to save 3 others. This was this bitch's second litter and the second time we have gone through this. The first litter we lost three out of four with natural births. My vet took the mummified pup from this litter and sent it to the University of Arizona in Tucson but they found nothing. The vets up here don't seem to have a clue. One of them suggested that if we breed her again we just schedule a c-section for her 59th day, another suggested that this is just a fluke and may never happen again. I don't know what to try next. Spaying her might be the next logical step if we can't find some way to stop this. I really would hate to do this as at least one of the pups that have been saved has some serious "Star" potential. We have no ideas what to try next and would appreciate any help or ideas from the list also. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Syssoloff" <rockannand@xxxxxxx> To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Mummified puppies > I've done some investigating over the net and now wanted to ask the List > for > input or experiences, if any, with mummified puppies. This is the first > time in all my breeding career, that a bitch failed to whelp normally. > This > bitch gave us a super litter once already. > > OK......... > > Last Monday morning at 4am, we lost our entire litter. Normal pregnancy > up > until whelp time. 1:30am, a shriveled up afterbirth and lots of > black-green > goo presented itself before a breached puppy...... alarm bells!! 2 hind > legs and together Lauea and I managed to get the dead puppy out. She was > the biggest puppy I have ever seen. > > Arrived at the Langley ER an hour later. Her calcium levels were low so > she > was unable to contract. After administration of both, she pushed out 2 > more > absolutely gigantic but dead pups. > > ER says pups lacked fluids and had probably been dead for a couple of > days. > What a heartbreaker.............. > > 2nd opinion was Dr. Zwamborn at 8am. "Over cooked puppies" he said. (his > terminology is gruesome at best). Give her calcium next pregnancy until > whelp time. This advice I need to investigate. > > Anybody???? > > Kate Syssoloff > > PS~~ thank heavens I had 6 gorgeous puppies to come home to!!! > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================