I'm the "LIST" from whom Penny needed "protection." All I did was display a human frailty; I made a mistake. It was rectified IMMEDIATELY and I fully admitted that I was wrong, but that wasn't enough, so here goes again... I was Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. I don't breed Whites and I had forgotten that the "E" locus controls White in the GSD and the recessive allele is "e." When a dog inherits two of the recessive alleles, i.e. "ee," the dog will be White despite still having the "A" locus gene, which controls color, in place. Therefore, a White dog is Genetically a "standard color", but Phenotypically White. The White dog when bred to a standard color dog can produce offspring that are standard color. I'm sorry that Penny feels the need to hunt for the White bitch's pedigree. I need no convincing. Penny's word is good enough for me. My apologies to Penny and the List for making Penny feel like she was being attacked. PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "The List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:54 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] More on White GSDs Thanks to everyone who wrote thinking I needed â?oprotectionâ? from the List, regarding last nightâ?Ts post about the (masking gene) sable that Eagle was bred to, way back when. I have the bitchâ?Ts pedigree packed away somewhere, I think; Iâ?Tll try to find it. The addendum to the story is this: the bitchâ?Ts owner dearly wanted a black and tan to keep, but ironically all pups were sable. As The Rolling Stones once sang, â?oYou canâ?Tt always get what you want.â? Thanks again, listers. Da List is da best! Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever Member of the GSDCA since 1981 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================