I am loving your responses! More from me: Whenever I have a question about health or ANYTHING about GSDs, I know I can count on Barbara Williams to steer me true. She always has the time. Same goes for my mentor, Ellen Heintz, who is up there in heaven with UFO and Congo and all the great ones--even if I didn't want to hear what she had to say, she was always honest and straightforward with me. SIDEBAR: Leslie and Donna did me a great kindness a couple years ago. They were delivering Deli and Jeddie to a trainer for me. Billy drove the dogs down to them. There was a huge snowstorm and the dogs could not be taken to the trainer till almost a MONTH later. I ran into them at the Rockland shows, got out my checkbook and asked how much the board would be for the two girls. They said "NOTHING" and refused to take a cent. Donna said, "That's what friends are for." And she's right--and I will never forget it. That's one of the many reasons they are my friends. It wasn't the money--do you get it? it was the kindness. Penny in NY ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================