I haven't done this in a LONG time, but yes, I used to do it if I felt the judge just didn't KNOW. I would not do this if I felt the win was a set-up; obviously THAT judge knew and was looking at the wrong end of the lead. In the early 80s, I used to show solid blacks exclusively--many judges just did not know how to look at them and/or just didn't like them. When I sent those judges a copy of the standard, I used to highlight STRONG RICH COLORS PREFERRED--because (IMHO) I felt color was the reason Obie was placed last. He was fun to show: in his first 10 shows, he won his puppy class 8 times, went RWD once and WD once--pretty good for a black (in the 80s) from the 6-9 class! The other 2 times, he was placed LAST in his puppy class <back then, the puppy classes were BIG> and I sent ONE of those 2 judges the standard--the other last placement was political, distancing MY puppy from a (even at that time) famous handler. But, showing blacks has made me a good loser--there was no rancor intended when I sent the standard--I honestly wanted the judge to read it and LEARN. (I know my last statement sounds superior--if you know me, it's NOT.) Penny in NY ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheila Lieberman To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx ; Show List Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Manners Can you really do that? I mean send a copy of the standard to a judge if you feel they did a bad job? I got so upset at one loss, and I have lost plenty, that I wrote to akc about the judge. This judge went with a dog who had a high rear over my bitch. No matter how great I think she is, she at least has a proper topline. And to loose to a high rear was just too much for me. I never thought to send this judge a copy of the standard. Too late now, it happened 2 years ago, but I would have done it if I had thought of it. Sheila Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Like someone mentioned on the List, I also send a picture with a note when one of my dogs gets an exciting win. Other times (and I mean this with no disrespect or sour grapes) I send the judge a copy of the breed standard because, IMHO, he or she didn't have a clue. Penny in NY ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Sheila of Miami Mernydex GSD's Loving Obedience Dog Training ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================