[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Manners

  • From: "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Sheila Lieberman" <sheilaofmiami@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:25:33 -0500

I haven't done this in a LONG time, but yes, I used to do it if I felt the 
judge just didn't KNOW.  I would not do this if I felt the win was a set-up; 
obviously THAT judge knew and was looking at the wrong end of the lead.  In the 
early 80s, I used to show solid blacks exclusively--many judges just did not 
know how to look at them and/or just didn't like them.  When I sent those 
judges a copy of the standard, I used to highlight STRONG RICH COLORS 
PREFERRED--because (IMHO) I felt color was the reason Obie was placed last.  He 
was fun to show:  in his first 10 shows, he won his puppy class 8 times, went 
RWD once and WD once--pretty good for a black (in the 80s) from the 6-9 class!  
The other 2 times, he was placed LAST in his puppy class <back then, the puppy 
classes were BIG> and I sent ONE of those 2 judges the standard--the other last 
placement was political, distancing MY puppy from a (even at that time) famous 
handler.  But, showing blacks has made me a good loser--there was no rancor 
intended when I sent the standard--I honestly wanted the judge to read it and 
LEARN.  (I know my last statement sounds superior--if you know me, it's NOT.)
Penny in NY
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sheila Lieberman 
  To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx ; Show List 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Manners

  Can you really do that?  I mean send a copy of the standard to a judge if you 
feel they did a bad job?

  I got so upset at one loss, and I have lost plenty, that I wrote to akc about 
the judge.  This judge went with a dog who had a high rear over my bitch.  No 
matter how great I think she is, she at least has a proper topline.  And to 
loose to a high rear was just too much for me.

  I never thought to send this judge a copy of the standard.  Too late now, it 
happened 2 years ago, but I would have done it if I had thought of it.
  Sheila

  Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    Like someone mentioned on the List, I also send a picture with a note when 
one of my dogs gets an exciting win. Other times (and I mean this with no 
disrespect or sour grapes) I send the judge a copy of the breed standard 
because, IMHO, he or she didn't have a clue.
    Penny in NY
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